Well some one really does have a death wish it is because we are multi skilled that We do get things done. And Yes I 2 do put my helmet on before my gloves. Maybe its the guys who don't seeing that a guy said it. :rollin and thanks Davo for your comments. WA here we come I will be getting riding practise in as soon as I can get Don into the sidecar for Ballast or should that have been as soon as I can get Don back OUT of the sidecar. Now that he is walking it's just a matter of when he can get in and out of the chair without to much trouble (pain)