Charlie if you heading into the Oberon / Bathurst area give me a ring mob 0418 403 438 a couple of day before and I will do my best to met up and maybe have a few more drinks, you would have left that red muck at home with donna on the back I hope, sorry I didn't get this posted before you left.Deb and I are going for a quick squit down to Tumut next saturaday the 11th oct and coming home sunday but you most likley will be well out of the area by then.